A forty-year-old error

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by and7barton, Jan 17, 2018.

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  1. wstol

    wstol Well-Known Member

    Er, well actually, John Cleese and Graham Chapman were so embarrassed by the film they had their names removed from the credits.

    Apparently so much of their script was altered they disowned the film.

    I think only the 'additional material by John Wells and John Fortune' credit exists.

    As bad as some people think the film is, it's definitely worth a watch. The story is quirky, but has many treasurable scenes and is great fun.

    The outstanding cast of James Booth, Richard Briers, Ronald Fraser, Donald Sinden, Kenneth Cope, John Wells, Richard Beckinsale, Michael Bentine, Spike Milligan, Derek Griffiths and Penelope Keith ensure fine performances.
  2. captain clutterbuck

    captain clutterbuck Well-Known Member

    Didn't know the film wont be purchasing me thinks but if it is excellent or otherwise the script has come from John Cleese and Graham Chapman who wrote a lot of the Python material and the former of course the classic Fawlty Towers
  3. mashibinbin

    mashibinbin Well-Known Member

    To me Ronald was always the slightly more rotund version of Leslie Philips - v similar castings but perhaps a little more seedy than caddish. He was always watchable even if the overall film wasn't.

    Amazingly it hasn't been mentioned yet that he sparred against a demonic version of our very own Smiler in the truly wonderful chock full of 70s talent 'The Magnificent 7 Deadly Sins' in the 'Wrath' segment.
  4. wstol

    wstol Well-Known Member

    Rentadick is an excellent film. Great cast in that. Ronald Fraser was great as the seedy owner of security company.
  5. and7barton

    and7barton Well-Known Member

    I remember him in a truly awful movie - Rentadick. There was another LOSW actor in that movie with him - Kenneth Cope.
  6. wstol

    wstol Well-Known Member

    I think the voices are similar, and Ronald Fraser specialised in playing well spoken yet seedy roles, so there are similarities.

    Ronald was also in Minder, Rentadick and Ooh... You are Awful.

    In later years he found fame again as the Lord of Love in TFI Friday.
  7. gothic

    gothic Administrator Staff Member

    Please don't forget the film of my favourite boyhood book "Swallows and Amazons" ... Ah, fond memories.
  8. captain clutterbuck

    captain clutterbuck Well-Known Member

    You can see how that mistake could be made

    robert.jpg Robert

    ronnie2.jpg Ronnie
  9. Pearl

    Pearl Super Moderator Staff Member

    Oh him! I know him, he's definitely not Robert Lang.
  10. captain clutterbuck

    captain clutterbuck Well-Known Member

    Ronnie Fraser was basically a support Actor in many many films starting way back in the fifties like Crooks in Cloisters , The Punch and Judy Man [with Tony Hancock] Flight of the Phoenix, Killing of Sister George and Wild Geese. It is a similar story in terms of TV he was again a support actor in some big shows Avengers, Danger Man, The Invisible Man and his real starring role was in the Misfit early 1970 for which you will know the writer , our very own Roy Clarke . Here is an old photo which may help

  11. happyjack

    happyjack Well-Known Member

    Your not on your own there. I did myself.:02:
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  12. Pearl

    Pearl Super Moderator Staff Member

    Is it bad that know who Robert Lang is but know idea who Ronald Frazer Is?
  13. mashibinbin

    mashibinbin Well-Known Member

    Funnily enough Mr Fraser was a potential third man once!
  14. captain clutterbuck

    captain clutterbuck Well-Known Member

    Imagine that established star Ronnie Fraser would have cost significantly more than was in the budget for guests so they opted for a minor actor [although he was in the biggest "soap" of its time Emergency Ward Ten] who had the aristocratic bearing that Ronnie Fraser, Terry Thomas , Leslie Phillips all portrayed throughout their career.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2018
  15. and7barton

    and7barton Well-Known Member

    Just discovered that in "The Flag and further snags", I hadn't been laughing at Ronald Frazer at all - It was some bloke called Robert Lang. All this time, I've been mistaken. Was it only ME, or has anyone else made this mistake ? - I should have read the credits back in the 70's.

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