Loxley Lozenge

happyjack

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I watched The Loxley Lozenge the other night. Has anyone noticed when Wesley tows the boys away from the barn they use a tow ROPE but in the next shot going up the road it is a RIGID tow bar?
 
I watched The Loxley Lozenge the other night. Has anyone noticed when Wesley tows the boys away from the barn they use a tow ROPE but in the next shot going up the road it is a RIGID tow bar?

Now, why do I suspect 'Health and Safety at Work Act'?
 
Probably a bloke in a white coat with a large book of regs under his arm watching for the slightest infraction ,Wesley probably had to replace the rope because Clegg had become a quivering nervous wreck.Did everyone see the hole in Foggy,s shoe during the ride home definitely he was on hard times or else he was about to buy a new pair.
 
Just as likely rules relating to driving on a public road, insurance liability, etc. Anyway, not sure the actors would appreciate being that open in a cut down car sitting on a settee being pulled by a flimsy rope. They might have thought that the stunt of the settee coming off on its own might happen for real. The tow bar probably secured it just right so they didn't have to use the stunt doubles. You can tell its the doubles when the settee speeds off on its own. That scene works really well because you can see the trio in the Loxley before the settee speeds off.
 
Not to mention that when they are in that muddy yard, it is a very dull, cloudy day and when they are out on the road, it suddenly a bright sunshiny day and the road is dry.
 
Here's a thought. Wearing a front seatbelt has been compulsory in the UK since 1983. This episode is from 1984. They are not wearing seatbelts (I couldn't see the trio with any kind of belt holding them in) as the front seat of the Loxley is a makeshift settee. I'm guessing they got around the law by having a fixed towbar to Wesley in front because then it could be argued that the car behind was not being driven by Clegg even though it looks like he is driving it. The Loxley is effectively fixed to the vehicle in front and can be passed as part of it.
 
went back and saw the change from a rope to a towbar, to be fair though the rac and aa have been using these towbars long before health and safety went mental...they are very effective and no way the towee can run into the towtruck.. :)
 
Not to mention that when they are in that muddy yard, it is a very dull, cloudy day and when they are out on the road, it suddenly a bright sunshiny day and the road is dry.


Weather changes quickly in Yorkshire ;D ;D ;D
 
Here's a thought. Wearing a front seatbelt has been compulsory in the UK since 1983. This episode is from 1984. They are not wearing seatbelts (I couldn't see the trio with any kind of belt holding them in) as the front seat of the Loxley is a makeshift settee. I'm guessing they got around the law by having a fixed towbar to Wesley in front because then it could be argued that the car behind was not being driven by Clegg even though it looks like he is driving it. The Loxley is effectively fixed to the vehicle in front and can be passed as part of it.

However vehicles first registered prior to 1965, at the time, were exempt, and presumably the Loxley Lozenge was built prior to that!

Another exception is brake lights, or used to be, if the vehicle was first registered prior to 1933 or 1932 they were not compulsory as they would not have been original equipment. However I once was a passenger when the problem of no brake lights showed when the 1951 Riley RME smashed into the rear of a 1932 Austin seven which, legally, had no brake lights but had slowed down! Rather bent rear of Austin and very badly dinted fluted chrome radiator of the Riley -expensive! :( :o :-X
 
I would have thought that regardless of Health and Safety, road safety laws, seatbelts, insurance, etc, they would want to make sure the actors were safe considering the scene wouldn't have worked as well with stunt doubles.
 
agreed philosopher...the 70's and 80's were still a time where normal life risks were taken, none of this we care for you solicitor nonsense, bloodsuckers....as a retired teacher I remember well the wonderful times I had with the kids in the late 70's and early 80's...we used to camp, light fires, jump into rivers off bridges, canoe in the sea etc etc...and guess what we all survived !!!....times past...kids are sadly much worse off today... :(
 
agreed philosopher...the 70's and 80's were still a time where normal life risks were taken, none of this we care for you solicitor nonsense, bloodsuckers....as a retired teacher I remember well the wonderful times I had with the kids in the late 70's and early 80's...we used to camp, light fires, jump into rivers off bridges, canoe in the sea etc etc...and guess what we all survived !!!....times past...kids are sadly much worse off today... :(

The above reminded me of the following:

To All The Kids Who Survived the 1940's, 50's, 60's and 70's!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.
Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.
As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.
Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.
We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because, WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chat rooms.......WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!
We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.
We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.
We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.
We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!
Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!
When we did something we were not supposed to or got into trouble, we got spanked (by a hand, a hairbrush, or a belt) or even worse we got our legs "switched" with a branch from a special bush grown in the backyard and even had to go cut it ourselves before it was used on us. But we never thought of calling the police or Social Services to report our parents for child abuse!
These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!


How Many Of These Do You Remember?
________________________________________
All the girls had ugly gym uniforms?
It took five minutes for the TV to warm up?
Nearly everyone's Mom was at home when the kids got home from school?
Nobody owned a purebred dog?
When a quarter was a decent allowance?
You'd reach into a muddy gutter for a penny?
Your Mom wore nylons that came in two pieces?
All your male teachers wore neckties and female teachers had their hair done every day and wore high heels?
You got your windshield cleaned, oil checked, and gas pumped, without asking, all for free, every time? And you didn't pay for air? And, you got trading stamps to boot?
Laundry detergent had free glasses, dishes or towels hidden inside the box?
It was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at a real restaurant with your parents?
They threatened to keep kids back a grade if they failed. . . and they did it!
When a 57 Chevy was everyone's dream car...to cruise, peel out, lay rubber or watch submarine races, and people went steady?
No one ever asked where the car keys were because they were always in the car, in the ignition, and the doors were never locked?
Lying on your back in the grass with your friends? and saying things like, 'That cloud looks like a... '?
Playing baseball with no adults to help kids with the rules of the game?
Spinning around, getting dizzy, and falling down was cause for giggles?
Stuff from the store came without safety caps and hermetic seals because no one had yet tried to poison a perfect stranger?
And with all our progress, don't you just wish, just once, you could slip back in time and savor the slower pace, and share it with the children of today.
When being sent to the principal's office was nothing compared to the fate that awaited the student at home?
Basically we were in fear for our lives, but it wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs, etc. Our parents and grandparents were a much bigger threat! But we survived because their love was greater than the threat.
Buying nearly everything out of the Sears Roebuck and Monkey Ward catalogs.
....as well as summers filled with bike rides, baseball games, Hula Hoops, bowling and visits to the pool, and eating Kool-Aid powder with sugar.
If you can remember most or all of these, Then You Have Lived!!!!!!! Candy cigarettes.
Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water inside.
Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles.
Coffee shops with Table Side Jukeboxes.
Blackjack, Clove and Teaberry chewing gum.
Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers.
Newsreels before the movie.
P.F. Fliers.
Telephone numbers with a word prefix...(Raymond 4-601). Party lines.
Peashooters.
Howdy Dowdy.
Hi-Fi's & 45 RPM records.
78 RPM records!
Green Stamps.
Mimeograph paper.
The Fort Apache Play Set.
Do You Remember a Time When.
Decisions were made by going 'eeny-meeny-miney-moe'?
Mistakes were corrected by simply exclaiming, 'Do Over!'?
'Race issue' meant arguing about who ran the fastest?
Catching The Fireflies Could Happily Occupy An Entire Evening?
It wasn't odd to have two or three 'Best Friends'?
The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was 'cooties'?
Having a Weapon in School meant being caught with a Slingshot?
Saturday morning cartoons weren't 30-minute commercials for action figures?
'Oly-oly-oxen-free' made perfect sense?
War was a card game?
Baseball cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle?
Taking drugs meant orange - flavored chewable aspirin?
Water balloons were the ultimate weapon?
Didn't that feel good, just to go back and say, 'Yeah, I remember that'?


 
O yes everything rings a bell when I lived in N Chingford we spent our summer days wandering around Epping Forest enjoying ourselves also we did make friends and had lots of adventures.We also went into London by bus (on 2/6d Red Rover ticket) to all the big exhibitions and museums no adults just the gang! I am glad I experienced all this as todays youngsters just cannot do anything until they go out and get drunk.Having said this there are expections ,recently I have met scouts,cubs ,brownies,and guides now this lot do go out and realy enjoy themselves showing no fear and starting their lives on a stable basis.
 
Yes, I actually bought a blue vase with Top Value stamps that I still have. I remember walking back from Girl Scouts and casting incredibly long shadows; the milkman crashing his gears as he pulled up and the clank of the milk bottles; walking all over creation and being slightly concerned about the boogie man. Getting a quick knock on the door and then the meter man would just walk in and shout "Meter man." Having the wonderful experience of getting to sit up front in between my parents in the car, or picking who would have suffer sitting in the middle (on the hump) in the back. Watching Buttons, the neighbors dog, trot expectantly to the school bus stop at exactly the right time. These were a few of my favorite memories.
 
time passes so quickly and things change so rapidly...often we cant find the time to sit and look back....thank goodness for the forum.. :D
 
... bus (on 2/6d Red Rover ticket) t....

Yes I remember those but ours were 2/6 Green Rover as we were in the country area of London Transport. Green double deckers with fleet numbers beginning RT (AEC Regent Mk III if I recall correctly) which I always thought made them special as they are my initials! ;) ;) ;)
 
Its amazing how this topic has gone from a Loxley Loxenge with no body work to a green double decker london bus. We lotsw have very vivid imaginations sometimes I suppose its what makes our forum so unique.
 
I watched The Loxley Lozenge the other night. Has anyone noticed when Wesley tows the boys away from the barn they use a tow ROPE but in the next shot going up the road it is a RIGID tow bar?

Now, why do I suspect 'Health and Safety at Work Act'?

Was not when they towed it away from the barn,just before they got to the gate the tow rope broke,causing the Lozenge the crash into a wall as Cleggy did not hit the brakes,maybe then Wesley had to use a solid bar
 
Going Back to the Loxley Lozenge for a moment, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the tow rope snapped !! and the thing rolled backwards so they fitted the bar. I can't remember where I read it so I suppose I could be having a "Senior Moment " !
 
Going Back to the Loxley Lozenge for a moment, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the tow rope snapped !! and the thing rolled backwards so they fitted the bar. I can't remember where I read it so I suppose I could be having a "Senior Moment " !

Well, that would be a practical answer and show that it had nothing to do at all with Health and Safety.
 
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