Summer Wine Decanted

captain clutterbuck said:
Our beloved show got a mention on BBC Breakfast , they had a reporter at the Picturedome whose restoration is now complete . The owner was interviewed said it was expensive to restore something like £400 a square foot in the end . Reporter ended by saying it was a beautiful restoration and Compo and Nora Batty would be proud.
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Got sent this from a friend in Holmfirth, sorry about the quality. https://fb.watch/ocW91z0TDb/
 
Barrychuckle said:
I've done that walk a few times too, it's a bit of a trek in the dark. But when I'm riding the beer chariot on the way back it always seems a lot easier :18:
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It took us ages to walk back, it was pitch black, late and I was thinking about a short cut across country but sensibly stuck to the road.
 
ferret said:
It took us ages to walk back, it was pitch black, late and I was thinking about a short cut across country but sensibly stuck to the road.
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Sorry to the other listeners to go off topic! The Bridge is perfectly located for the Picturedome, you can get a room sometimes for just over £100 when you factor in the cooked breakfast I don’t think it’s miles apart from a Holme Valley stay
 
Leigh and Peter's documentary is the latest series I have watched and thankfully does not display the trend I am absolutely fuming about. The current trend of programmers, like those producing the likes of the Antiques Roadshow , Bargain Hunt and many more , feel they have to spoil the suspense and surprise in the show by showing a preview of some of the items that are to arrive on the expert's tables or bought by the contestants it just angers me intensely .

Why ????? I am mature enough to not show any anxiety over what will occur in the show , the suspense does not kill me so why o why do they do it . Am I alone in the deep set annoyance at this trait or does it antagonise others ? :mad:
 
captain clutterbuck said:
Leigh and Peter's documentary is the latest series I have watched and thankfully does not display the trend I am absolutely fuming about. The current trend of programmers, like those producing the likes of the Antiques Roadshow , Bargain Hunt and many more , feel they have to spoil the suspense and surprise in the show by showing a preview of some of the items that are to arrive on the expert's tables or bought by the contestants it just angers me intensely .

Why ????? I am mature enough to not show any anxiety over what will occur in the show , the suspense does not kill me so why o why do they do it . Am I alone in the deep set annoyance at this trait or does it antagonise others ? :mad:
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I think the explanation is simple, many of the social media generation are weaned on Tik Tok or like videos, which are typically a minute or so long. Therefore unless these programmes can convey what they have in store within a couple of minutes, many won't commit to watching for the full half hour.....
 
captain clutterbuck said:
Leigh and Peter's documentary is the latest series I have watched and thankfully does not display the trend I am absolutely fuming about. The current trend of programmers, like those producing the likes of the Antiques Roadshow , Bargain Hunt and many more , feel they have to spoil the suspense and surprise in the show by showing a preview of some of the items that are to arrive on the expert's tables or bought by the contestants it just angers me intensely .

Why ????? I am mature enough to not show any anxiety over what will occur in the show , the suspense does not kill me so why o why do they do it . Am I alone in the deep set annoyance at this trait or does it antagonise others ? :mad:
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If they tell you what is coming and towards the end whats coming next week, then they shave a bit of time off the actual show and all the minutes add up, I have seen on commerical channels that after episode 1, they show a couple of minutes of the previous episode, at the end a couple of minutes of the next episode, take out the adverts and you are left with about 35 minutes out of a 1 hr show, some channels even do a repeat of what you have just seen after every break
 
captain clutterbuck said:
Leigh and Peter's documentary is the latest series I have watched and thankfully does not display the trend I am absolutely fuming about. The current trend of programmers, like those producing the likes of the Antiques Roadshow , Bargain Hunt and many more , feel they have to spoil the suspense and surprise in the show by showing a preview of some of the items that are to arrive on the expert's tables or bought by the contestants it just angers me intensely .

Why ????? I am mature enough to not show any anxiety over what will occur in the show , the suspense does not kill me so why o why do they do it . Am I alone in the deep set annoyance at this trait or does it antagonise others ? :mad:
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Not that I take much notice - because I think I know my audience better - all the YouTube maker advice channels suggest using the "teaser" approach to "hook" people. Also - against advice - I have a 20-25 second title sequence on most of the Summer Wine videos! In general, the frequent recap thing does not happen on YouTube as the creator does not necessarily know where the mid-video ad break - if any - will be. not having the "hook", however has probably affected the "retention" (length of time a video is watched) as only about 60% of people watch after the first 30 seconds, and only about 30% reach the end of the video.
In tv sitcoms and drama productions the "teaser" is called a cold open, even Summer wine used this from about series 19 - a brief interchange, perhaps Nora and Compo having a bedroom window chat. It doesn't always have anything to do with the plot, but it does seem to engage people, who will then sit through the opening credits. However, often the opening credits on Summer Wine did expand on the cold open, by showing what happens after their interchange.
I did use a cold open once, for the episode about Wesley's vehicles. However, as far as I remember this was only decided on at either the day we filmed the shots at the Land Rover garage (or possibly later at the editing stage, petedk42 might remember) - I was not the original intention.
 
Barrychuckle said:
I think the explanation is simple, many of the social media generation are weaned on Tik Tok or like videos, which are typically a minute or so long. Therefore unless these programmes can convey what they have in store within a couple of minutes, many won't commit to watching for the full half hour.....
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I recently read - I forget where - that interns (young people) at a particular tv production related business were sent to the BFI to view a selection of 70s / 80s shows for an insight into tv production. All the interns commented how slow the old programmes were...
 
captain clutterbuck said:
So its all down to catering for a generation who have the attention span of a gnat gawd help us . What next "coming up on Agatha Christie" followed by a character lying prone with a knife through their heart .
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Not sure you're a fan of The Fast Show but it was based on a similar premise. I recall Paul Whitehouse once saying may traditional sketches were dragged out to the punchline, whereas they cut quickly to the punchline. I'll get my coat........
 
Barrychuckle said:
Not sure you're a fan of The Fast Show but it was based on a similar premise. I recall Paul Whitehouse once saying may traditional sketches were dragged out to the punchline, whereas they cut quickly to the punchline. I'll get my coat........
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You knew what you were getting with the Fast Show ... and it was well written. As a sketch show it didn't need the full set up - two smartly dressed men in a gents' outfitters, ah, they're the salesmen.
The format was an accident - they threw together some clips to get a commission and the "fast" delivery became their selling point.
 
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